OOR/ConferenceCall 2011 03 18

= OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Metadata Workshop-I - Fri 2011_03_18 =

Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-I

Session Chair: MichaelGruninger

Archives:

 * Slides
 * Audio recording of the session [ 1:21:58 ; mp3 ; 9.4MB ]
 * chat-transcript from the session

Conference Call Details:

 * Date: Friday, 18-Mar-2011
 * Start Time: 9:00am EDT / 6:00am PDT / 2:00pm CET / 1:00pm GMT / 13:00 UTC
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Attendees

 * Attended:
 * MichaelGruninger (chair)
 * MikeDean
 * PeterYim (scribe)
 * TimDarr
 * KenBaclawski
 * LeoObrst
 * YuriyMilov
 * ToddSchneider
 * FrankOlken
 * JouniTuominen


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 * TimWilson
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 * Regrets:

Agenda Ideas
please insert agenda ideas below ...


 * using the currently published OMV as a baseline, discuss what metadata would we need to capture, for the OOR.

Abstract
The Future of Ontology Metadata? by MichaelGruninger

[ slides ]


 * This meeting will kickoff the discussion of the use of ontology metadata within OOR.


 * MichaelGruninger will present a few slides to start the discussion.

Of primary importance will be the identification of use cases within OOR that can be used to evaluate the adequacy of OMV (Ontology Metadata Vocabulary) for OOR and to propose any new extensions.

References:

 * Metadata for Ontologies - from the [[OntologySummit2008_Communique]]
 * Metadata requirement - as stipulated in the OOR IPR Policy
 * The Joint OpenOntologyRepository-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion Session - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10
 * Presentation by PeterHaase "The OMV Ontology Metadata Vocabulary" at that session
 * Ontology Metadata Vocabulary - OMV
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture

Agenda & Proceedings
1. Meeting called to order:


 * MichaelGruninger takes the chair and welcome everyone
 * Review and adopt agenda
 * PeterYim volunteered to keep a record of the proceedings

2. Roll Call:


 * see above

3. Key items for review and discussion today:

3.1 Opening: The Future of Ontology Metadata? - by MichaelGruninger

3.2 Discussion:


 * see archives above


 * Michael: in summary - 3 take aways:
 * 1. review Ken's use cases to validate the adequacy of OMV - near term
 * 2. research, discussion, sought expert advice on state-of-art on versioning, identifier, etc. - medium term
 * 3. drive the sandbox to production box transition - urgent

3.3 IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

[06:00] PeterYim: Welcome to the ...

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Metadata Workshop-I - Fri 2011_03_18   (2MRJ)

Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-I   (2Q8X)

Session Chair: MichaelGruninger   (2Q8Y)

Please see details on session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18

. PeterYim: MichaelGruninger briefs group with his presentation "The Future of Ontology Metadata?" ... essentially to start the discussion today

LeoObrst: ref. the discussion about "configuration" from the Architecture-API workshops in the last couple of weeks

PeterYim: see references under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18#nid2Q8Q

MichaelGruninger: Earlier OOR meetings have introduced the notion of configuration. How is this related to the specification of relationships between modules.

ToddSchneider: Leo, are you talking about historical usage information?

ToddSchneider: Maybe whatever OOR uses for metadata needs to be modular itself.

MichaelGruninger: What is the distinction between semantic versioning and ontology versioning that is closer to software versioning (a la SVN and CVS)

PeterYim: assuming metadata (requirement, implementing into gatekeeping, etc.) is a key piece of the puzzle ... How do we move from "sandbox" to "production" OOR ... maybe we can use that as our use case scenario that might drive this discussion

MichaelGruninger: We should make a distinction between two different scenarios -- 1) we have a use case that requires metadata that in some way conflicts with OMV; 2) we have a use case that requires new kinds of metadata. If all of our use cases are in the same category, then we can adopt OMV but develop / propose our own extensions.

KenBaclawski: See http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/kenb/ontologies/ for the use cases that have been collected so far.

ToddSchneider: We will review OOR use cases that will require additional elements for OMV or elements of OMV that are inconsistent with OMV.

MikeDean: There's a good depiction of OMV at http://omv2.sourceforge.net/description.html I assume it's current.

PeterYim: Thanks, Mike - I've added that to the OMV page on our wiki as well - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OMV

MikeDean: Michael has been using the v2.4.1 report, which includes the v2.4 figure link above. Reviewer is part of the Evaluation extension.

Frank Olken: Michael, What software tools are you using for the development of the COLORE ontologies?

MichaelGruninger: @Frank: We are mainly building our own tools, but Cameron Ross at Kojeware has also been developing Common Logic parsers, validators, editors, etc

Tim Darr: @Michael: are those tools available? KBSI might be interested in using them.

MichaelGruninger: @Tim: Contact Cameron (cross[at]kojeware.com)

Tim Darr: @Michael: Thanks!

Frank Olken: Does OMV have any notion of authoritative source documents (e.g., legal code, federal regulation, etc.) for an ontology?

Frank Olken: Some of the issues (e.g., administrative metadata) are addressed by ISO/IEC 11179 (Edition 3 of Part 3 is currently being progressed to a new ISO standard.)

Frank Olken: ISO/IEC 11179 is described in UML - could be converted OWL (Kevin Keck may have done this.)

Frank Olken: ISO/IEC 11179 is a generic metadata registry standard.

KenBaclawski: @Frank: The gatekeeper prototype is based on ISO/IEC 11179, but it is not yet integrated with the OOR sandbox.

PeterYim: ref. the "gatekeeping" & "workflow" in the Architecture discussion - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_11#nid2PQH - specifically: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/kenb/oor/workflow.pdf

PeterYim: the issue of the OOR providing a persistent URI for a ontology, or the finer granular parts of it, when the ontology moves from different repository instances (as in federated OORs) and from version to version - that needs to be discussed in the context of metadata, as well as independently

MichaelGruninger: Action Item 1: Evaluate the adequacy of OMV with respect to the OOR use cases at http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/kenb/ontologies/

MichaelGruninger: Action Item 2: Focus on issues related to "production" OOR, particularly the gatekeeper functionality.

PeterYim: @Michael and All - please review the summary take-away of this meeting (as Michael described it just now) http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18#nid2QDE

PeterYim: next Friday (Mar-25) is a Architecture-API workshop again

PeterYim: after that, we should have a regular OOR team meeting (Apr-1)

PeterYim: we can consider what to do for Apr-8 then (at the Apr-1 meeting) ... noting that Ken will be away for 2 weeks (until Apr-11) after he runs the Mar-25 Architecture-API workshop

PeterYim: great meeting, bye!

PeterYim: -- session ended: 7:26am PDT --

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --

4. Any Other Business:

5. Action items:

6. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:


 * Next Meeting:
 * next week we will be having the "OOR Architecture API Workshop-III" on Fri 2011.03.25
 * Date: Fri 2011.03.25 - Start time: 6:00am PDT / 9:00am EDT / 2:00pm CET / 1:00pm GMT / 13:00 UTC (ref. worldclock)
 * see developing session page is at OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_25
 * after that we will have a regular OOR team meeting on Fri 2011.04.01
 * Date: Fri 2011.04.01 - Start time: 6:00am PDT / 9:00am EDT / 3:00pm CEST / 2:00pm BST / 13:00 UTC (ref. worldclock)
 * Michael: a next "Metadata Workshop" would probably be about a month (or more) away, to allow time for some research to be done
 * Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr
 * ref. our doodle poll (see: http://doodle.com/a2snxkpkd8hhxek4 ), looks like we can settle in on two new meeting times - a 6:00am PT (14:00 UTC) and an 8:30am PT (16:30 UTC) (or something in between) ...


 * Call adjourned at: 7:26 am PDT

-- notes taken by: PeterYim / 2011.03.18-7:58am PDT All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

 * homepage - OpenOntologyRepository - http://OpenOntologyRepository.org
 * proceedings of our previous meetings
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_02_13
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_18
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_09
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_23
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_06_06
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_06_20
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_07_11
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_07_25
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_08_08
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_08_29
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_09_05
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_09_19
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_10_03
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_10_10
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_10_17
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_11_07
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_11_14
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_12_12
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_01_09
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_01_23
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_02_06
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_03_06
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_03_20
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_04_03
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_05_01
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_05_15
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_05_29
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_06_12
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_06_26
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_07_10
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_07_24
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_08_14
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_09_04
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_09_18
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_10_02
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_11_13
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2009_12_11
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_01_08
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_01_22
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_02_05
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_03_05
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_03_19
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_04_16
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_04_30
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_05_21
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_06_11
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_07_09
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_07_23
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_08_06
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_08_20
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_09_03
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_10_01
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_10_29
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_12_17
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_01_07
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_01_21
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_02_04
 * OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_02_18
 * OOR Charter - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories.
 * "Ontology Repository" Definition - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed"
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Scope - documentation related to this OOR initiative's mission, charter, objectives, goals, terms of reference, definitions, scope, ... etc.
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement - documentation related to the requirements of the "open ontology repository" we are planning to implement through this OOR initiative.
 * OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Approach - documentation related to this OOR initiative's approach, and the process we will be using.
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture - documentation related to the architecture of the "open ontology repository" we are planning to implement through this OOR initiative.
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Plan
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 * Developers mailling list: [ oor-dev ] message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/
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 * 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: GeorgeStrawn - Chair: PeterYim - Panelists: JamieClark, JohnWilbanks, BrucePerens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
 * 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: MarkMusen - Panelists: CameronRoss, AlanRector, JohnSowa, BrucePerens, JohnWilbanks, PeterYim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
 * 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: LeoObrst - Panelists: PeterYim, MikeDean, BrucePerens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30
 * the Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussions:
 * 2008_02_28 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Ontology Registry and Repository Technology &amp; Infrastructure Landscape" - Co-chairs: LeoObrst &amp; FrankOlken; Panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MikeDean, MarkMusen, FarrukhNajmi &amp; PeterYim - ConferenceCall_2008_02_28
 * 2008_03_27 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations &amp; Requirements - Session-1" - Chair: LeoObrst &amp; FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: WilliamBug, EvanWallace, JohnLMcCarthy, KenBaclawski, PeterBenson &amp; RexBrooks - ConferenceCall_2008_03_27
 * 2008_04_03 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations &amp; Requirements - Session-2" - Chair: LeoObrst &amp; FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: DougLenat, DekeSmith, MarciaZeng, DeniseBedford, PatHayes, MalaMehrotra &amp; RobRaskin - ConferenceCall_2008_04_03
 * 2008_04_10 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR" - Co-chairs: BarrySmith &amp; MichaelGruninger; Panelists: MichaelGruninger, PeterHaase, NatashaNoy &amp; ElisaKendall - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10
 * the OOR Development panel sessions:
 * 2008_08_22 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground: Identifying Synergies &amp; Gaps" (Take-1) - Chair: LeoObrst; Panelists: MikeDean, MarkMusen, LiDing, BruceBargmeyer &amp; BillAndersen - ConferenceCall_2008_08_22
 * 2009_02_19 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground (Take-2): the work begins" - Chair: ToddSchneider; Panelists: MarkMusen, NatashaNoy, MikeDean, PaulBuitelaar / AndreasHarth, MathieuDaquin, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger - ConferenceCall_2009_02_19
 * 2009_07_16 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Integrated tools for ontology development and management: A field guide to the Stanford technology" - Chair: MarkMusen - Panelists: TaniaTudorache, TimRedmond, NatashaNoy - ConferenceCall_2009_07_16
 * 2009_07_30 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "BioPortal and related Ontology Repository Implementations and Development" (Take-3) - Chair: NatashaNoy - Panelists: CarlosRueda, PaulAlexander, JohnGraybeal, MikeDean, StephenGranite, AlexGarcia, KenBaclawski - ConferenceCall_2009_07_30
 * 2010_02_19 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Coordinating our Open Ontology Repository Software Development" - Chair: MikeDean - Panelists: JimChatigny, MichaelGruninger, KenBaclawski, NatashaNoy - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_02_19
 * 2010_04_01 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog Panel Session: "OOR Use Cases - Take-3" - Chair: KenBaclawski &amp; ToddSchneider - Panelists: ToddSchneider, MatthewHettinger, KenBaclawski and MaximoGurmendez - ConferenceCall_2010_04_01
 * 2010_09_10 - Friday: Joint SIO-OOR-Ontolog Panel Discussion: "Common Logic (CL) Support for OOR" - Chair: JohnSowa - Panelists: JohnBateman-TillMossakowski, MichaelGruninger, CameronRoss, AdamPease, PatHayes - ConferenceCall_2010_09_10
 * 2010_09_17 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IV" Workshop - Co-chairs: ToddSchneider &amp; MichaelGruninger - Panelists: ToddSchneider, MikeDean, NatashaNoy, ImmanuelNormann, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_09_17
 * 2010_10_15 - Friday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call - discussion on the (post-BioPortal fork) OOR Architecture and API - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_10_15
 * 2010_11_19 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "(Post-BioPortal fork) OOR Architecture and API - Take-II" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski &amp; MichaelGruninger - Panelists: KenBaclawski+ToddSchneider, AldoGangemi+AlessandroAdamou, JouniTuominen+KimViljanen, EricChan - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_11_19
 * 2011_03_04 - Friday: OOR "Architecture &amp; API Specification Development Workshop-I" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski &amp; ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_04
 * 2011_03_11 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture &amp; API Specification Development Workshop-II" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski &amp; ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_11
 * 2011_03_18 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-I - Chair: MichaelGruninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18
 * OntologySummit2008 homepage
 * OntologySummit2008_Communique
 * OntologySummit2008/FaceToFaceAgenda
 * The OOR Project Presentation (delivered at the OntologySummit2008 face-to-face workshop)
 * [ ontology-summit ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2008-01/ (~5 months exchanges starting from Jan-2008)
 * Our key content pages:
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Scope
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Organization
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Process
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Policy
 * OpenOntologyRepository_IPR
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement
 * OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Approach
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Roadmap
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Plan
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Funding
 * OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchIssues
 * OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchActivity
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Development
 * OpenOntologyRepository_Metadata ...  [new!] 
 * OOR Project site at SemWebCentral - http://oor.semwebcentral.org
 * http://semwebcentral.org/scm/?group_id=152 describes SVN access
 * Public sandbox instance of OOR (OOR-sandbox) - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies)
 * OOR_SandBox
 * NCBO-OOR development documentation - http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO-OOR_Development