ConferenceCall 2005 07 21

= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-07-21 =

Conference Call Details

 * Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-07-21


 * Agenda Comments:
 * ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
 * please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
 * VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
 * view-only password: "ontolog"
 * view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
 * Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_07_21
 * Date: Thursday, Jul. 21, 2005
 * Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
 * Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
 * Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
 * Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

 * Attended:
 * RexBrooks
 * PeterYim
 * BobSmith
 * BillMcCarthy
 * KurtConrad
 * AndersTell


 * Expecting:
 * MonicaMartin
 * ...(add your name here)...


 * Regrets:
 * SteveRay (see input on meeting time below)
 * PaulKoch
 * DuaneNickull
 * JamesDouma

Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda


 * BobSmith took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes


 * PeterYim volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants


 * see above

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)


 * Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
 * member regular meeting
 * invited speaker session
 * scheduled discussion
 * project review
 * workshop / work session
 * planning


 * Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
 * August 11, 2005 - JimHendler from the University of Maryland will be doing a "Semantic Web Q & A" with the Ontolog community - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_11
 * Candidate Sep. 2005 session(s) - we could probably do either one or both:
 * Sep. 8 (or day within that week) -- candidates - ElisaKendall (Peter), BarrySmith (Bill) (probably for Oct.2005 too)
 * JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan]
 * possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event (suggested: SusanTurnbull / 2005.03.03)
 * SusanTurnbull/2005.07.20: draft title for Sept. 23, 2005 (Friday) Collaborative Expedition Workshop is: "Governance and Procurement Readiness Challenges in Future Services Oriented Architecture: Leveraging the Data Reference Model"
 * PeterYim / SusanTurnbull: let's aim at doing a 2-hour joint CEW-Ontolog session on Fri 2005.09.23 1:30~3:30pm EDT / 10:30am~12:30pm PDT
 * Peter will follow-up with Kurt
 * BillMcCarthy suggested John Sowa (try, either Sep. 1 or 6, 2005) - Bill will write John about this
 * Bill: haven't started to contact John yet; maybe we could try BarrySmith before John
 * future candidates speakers:
 * DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
 * NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)
 * LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
 * SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
 * other suggestions:
 * a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
 * possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
 * Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
 * Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
 * JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
 * Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
 * Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
 * Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time
 * Bill: one more suggestion BarrySmith
 * Peter: PatHayes, ElisaKendall, DeborahMcGuinness


 * Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months
 * DavidWhitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
 * no discussion session for July 2005
 * August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: RexBrooks - subject: Healthcare Informatics
 * candidate panelists: BobSmith, MarkMusen, MarcWine, DavidWhitten, ChrisChute, ... people from within and without the community
 * Rex and Bob will have a phone conference to work out some of the details
 * Peter to set up a skeleton session page, Rex will fill in the content
 * more work/discussion on OWL
 * Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
 * NicolasRouquette -- topics lined up?
 * Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up
 * WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by DuaneNickull / NicolasRouquette / PeterBrown - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html
 * candidate panelists:
 * John Domingue of the Knowledge Media Institute at the Open University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck - suggested by PeterBrown - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00039.html
 * reference: John Domingue's slides from the presentation at the recent W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services, available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf
 * WSMO WG website - http://www.wsmo.org
 * SDK cluster - 3 fairly large EU-based project
 * currently lots of funding in Europe for semantic web work (and funding in US has just ended), therefore expecting new work to come from Europe
 * three different viewpoints now - OWL/S, SWSI - FLOWS, and WSMO viewpoints - probably a bit early to talk about standardization
 * let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented
 * John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand)
 * ref. our 2005.06.30 discussion session, MichaelGruninger (who has been working on FLOWS and SWSF) indicated that this will be a session he will like to participate in too.
 * suggest NicolasRouquette to be our moderator for this session
 * we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
 * candidates for November, 2005
 * Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
 * Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
 * Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
 * Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
 * Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, etc.


 * Upcoming Events of interest
 * Aug. 16, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Woirkshop #43 (NSF)
 * Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Rex, Peter)
 * Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues


 * Regular call time revisited: - will discuss in this session - ref: RegularConferenceCall
 * open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first.
 * MichaelGruninger also indicated last week (during the 2005.06.30 session) that our Thursday call time conflicts with that of the SWSF WG call schedule too.
 * SteveRay/2005.07.18 - "Input on alternative Ontolog meeting times: I would be able to attend at least some of the Ontolog meetings if they were held on any of: Monday, Tuesday or Friday PM. Cheers, Steve"
 * consensus is to keep the current time for now (sorry, Scott, Steve & Michael; let's see what else we can do ... =ppy)
 * Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in this exercise

6) Follow-ups from previous calls


 * Note of thanks to AndersTell for presenting a wonderful synthesis of the eBusiness collaboration and ontological landscape


 * call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: DuaneNickull - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]


 * possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]

7) Current Project Status Report


 * Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work - item skipped
 * Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
 * Formalization issues
 * UBL Liaison update
 * [CCT-Rep] status report


 * Status of Protege-KIF project work


 * status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
 * AHIC Nomination
 * Aug. 5, 2005 deadline to submit a one pager.
 * BobSmith will draft what we plan to submit and post for community review
 * if no additional comments, that will get submitted


 * UBL liaison report


 * SICoP liaison report
 * MarcWine (BrandNiemann & PeterYim will join in too) will be meeting with HHS Mon 2005.07.25
 * BobSmith: how about the DRM and its Data Sharing Toolkit and associated processes? (as presented at the Collaborative Expedition Workshop 2005.07.19)
 * ref: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/DesigningTheDRM_DataVisibility_2005_07_19#nid2TQP


 * status report from Planning team
 * there won't be a planning session after this call

8) project work session / discussion


 * VistA-Ontolog collaboration potential:
 * Open Source set-aside contract (1 of 6) - ref RexBrook's post: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-07/msg00006.html
 * we'll hope to get some progress in Rex's discussion session in Aug. 25, 2005

9) New project proposals


 * Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective
 * Rex, Bob, Peter to talk this over after the call today


 * topic map of interest; scheduling conflicts; ... etc.
 * Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP
 * Bob: we could bring this up at our planning session
 * potential new project with Nicolas, Bob and Kurt leading
 * See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/TaggingForumForMatchingInterestsWithinCompatibleSchedule

10) Sponsorship and funding - ITEM SKIPPED

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn


 * call adjourned 11:50am am PDT
 * next call will be on Thu 2005.07.28 starting at 10:30 am PDT

-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim ppy / 2005.07.21 11:51 am PDT