ConferenceCall 2005 07 07

= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-07-07 =

Conference Call Details

 * Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-07-07


 * Agenda Comments:
 * ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
 * please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
 * VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
 * view-only password: "ontolog"
 * view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
 * Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_07_07
 * Date: Thursday, Jul. 07, 2005
 * Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
 * Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
 * Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
 * Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

 * Attended:
 * RexBrooks
 * BobSmith
 * PeterYim
 * BillMcCarthy
 * AndersTell


 * Expecting:


 * Regrets:
 * KurtConrad (on vacation)
 * LisaSeaburg
 * SteveRay
 * JamesDouma (meeting conflict)
 * DuaneNickull

Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda


 * RexBrooks took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes


 * PeterYim volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants


 * see above

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)


 * Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
 * member regular meeting
 * invited speaker session
 * scheduled discussion
 * project review
 * workshop / work session
 * planning


 * Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
 * July 14, 2005 - AndersTell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths AB (Sweden) on Business Ontologies - (proposed: DuaneNickull) - see: ConferenceCall_2005_07_14
 * August 11, 2005 - JimHendler from the University of Maryland will be doing a "Semantic Web Q & A" with the Ontolog community - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_11
 * Candidate Sep. 2005 session(s) - we could probably do either one or both:
 * JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan]
 * possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event (suggested: SusanTurnbull / 2005.03.03)
 * BillMcCarthy suggested John Sowa (try, either Sep. 1 or 6, 2005) - Bill will write John about this
 * future candidates speakers:
 * DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
 * NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)
 * LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
 * SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
 * other suggestions:
 * a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
 * possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
 * Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
 * Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
 * JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
 * Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
 * Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
 * Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time


 * Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months
 * DavidWhitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
 * more work/discussion on OWL
 * Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
 * NicolasRouquette -- topics lined up?
 * Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up
 * WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by DuaneNickull / NicolasRouquette / PeterBrown - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html
 * candidate panelists:
 * John Domingue of the Knowledge Media Institute at the Open University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck - suggested by PeterBrown - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00039.html
 * reference: John Domingue's slides from the presentation at the recent W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services, available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf
 * WSMO WG website - http://www.wsmo.org
 * SDK cluster - 3 fairly large EU-based project
 * currently lots of funding in Europe for semantic web work (and funding in US has just ended), therefore expecting new work to come from Europe
 * three different viewpoints now - OWL/S, SWSI - FLOWS, and WSMO viewpoints - probably a bit early to talk about standardization
 * let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented
 * John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand)
 * ref. our 2005.06.30 discussion session, MichaelGruninger (who has been working on FLOWS and SWSF) indicated that this will be a session he will like to participate in too.
 * no discussion session for July 2005
 * August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: RexBrooks - subject: Healthcare Informatics
 * candidate panelists: BobSmith, MarkMusen, ... people from within and without the community


 * Upcoming Events of interest
 * Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Rex, Peter)
 * Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues


 * Regular call time revisited: - will discuss in the next planning session
 * open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first.
 * MichaelGruninger also indicated last week (during the 2005.06.30 session) that our Thurday call time conflicts with that of the SWSF WG call schedule too.

6) Follow-ups from previous calls


 * Note of thanks to a great session last week -- it's another ground-breaking event for Ontolog
 * What worked well?
 * we picked a right topic
 * current, timeliness
 * hot, relevant
 * appropriate for discussion, significantly immature
 * prospect of competing expert viewpoint
 * we were able to put this together quickly
 * stakeholders find value in an inexpensive CoP setting (compared to peer-reviewed publication and conference)
 * What can be improved?
 * Bill: would be nice if we have some visibility on who wanted to speak, queue up questions, etc.
 * Peter: we have a space on the wiki for it ... but it's more the culture than the tool
 * follow-ups with the POSE / IMS people?
 * consensus that we stay put, but will generally be receptive to collaborate, either individually or collectively


 * call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: DuaneNickull - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]


 * possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]

7) Current Project Status Report


 * Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work - item skipped
 * Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
 * Formalization issues
 * UBL Liaison update
 * [CCT-Rep] status report


 * Status of Protege-KIF project work - item skipped


 * status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
 * AHIC Nomination
 * the Ontolog community is nominating Dr. Mark Musen to the AHIC commission
 * Bob: still awaiting to hear from ONCHIT details on the nomination process
 * the consensus of the meeting is that we will keep the letter simple


 * UBL liaison report - item skipped


 * SICoP liaison report - item skipped
 * report from the Ontolog-XMDR 2005.06.23 pm meeting (Peter / Kurt / Rex)


 * status report from Planning team - item skipped
 * note: planning session (originally scheduled after this call) is now postponed to ______

8) project work session / discussion - item skipped


 * VistA-Ontolog collaboration potential:
 * Open Source set-aside contract (1 of 6) - ref RexBrook's post: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-07/msg00006.html

9) New project proposals - item skipped


 * Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective


 * topic map of interest; scheduling conflicts; ... etc.
 * Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP
 * Bob: we could bring this up at our planning session
 * potential new project with Nicolas, Bob and Kurt leading
 * See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/TaggingForumForMatchingInterestsWithinCompatibleSchedule

10) Sponsorship and funding - item skipped

11) Other business - item skipped

12) Next meeting date and adjourn


 * call adjourned 11:58 am PDT
 * next call will be on Thu 2005.07.14 starting at 10:30 am PDT - Invited Speaker Session featuring AndersTell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths AB (Sweden) on "Business Ontologies" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_07_14

-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim =ppy / 2005.07.07 11:58 am PDT