ConferenceCall 2010 03 04

= OntologySummit2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010 =

OntologySummit2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"

 * Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"


 * Chair: Dr. SteveRay - [ opening slides ]


 * Panelists:
 * Dr. AmandaVizedom - "What Are We Training For?" - [ slides ]
 * Professor ArturoSanchez & Dr. AntonyGalton - "State of Ontologist Education and Training" - [ slides ]
 * Mrs. ElizabethFlorescu & Mr. PeterYim - "Future of Ontologists" - [ slides ]


 * Archive:
 * Abstract
 * Agenda & Proceedings
 * Our panelists' prepared presentation material can be accessed by clicking on each of the title links below:
 * [ 0-Chair ] . [ 1-Sanchez-Galton ] . [ 2-Vizedom ] . [ 3-Florescu-Yim ]
 * [ Audio Recording of the session ]
 * [ Transcript of the online chat session ] during the panel discussion
 * Other Resources

Conference Call Details

 * Date: Thursday, 4-March-2010 
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 * To participate in OntologySummit2010 virtual discourse, please refer to details here.

Attendees:

 * Attended:
 * SteveRay (Chair)
 * AmandaVizedom
 * ArturoSanchez
 * ElizabethFlorescu
 * PeterYim
 * MariaKeet
 * Jeremy Arca (NASA/JPL)
 * JeffreySchiffel
 * MichelleRaymond
 * LeoObrst
 * Megan Mickelson (NASA/JPL)
 * RaviSharma
 * MichaelGruninger
 * FabianNeuhaus
 * PavithraKenjige
 * GaryBergCross
 * BruceBray
 * JoelBender
 * CharlesWhite
 * JeffAbbott
 * BernardUlozas
 * AliHashemi


 * Expecting:
 * ... if you are coming to the session, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above; or e-mail  so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...
 * ... if you are coming to the session, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above; or e-mail  so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...


 * Regrets:
 * JulitaBermejoAlonso
 * AntonyGalton
 * BarrySmith (traveling)
 * MauricioAlmeida (will try joining)

Resources

 * Homepage of OntologySummit2010:
 * OntologySummit2010_Survey
 * OntologySummit2010 - Event Calendar
 * OntologySummit2010 Panel Session-4 "Template for Ontology Training Programs" - ConferenceCall_2010_02_11
 * OntologySummit2010 Panel Session-3 "What Are We Training For?" - ConferenceCall_2010_02_04
 * OntologySummit2010 Panel Session-2 "What's in the Brain of an Ontologist -- The Strawman's Proposal" - ConferenceCall_2010_01_14
 * OntologySummit2010 Panel Session-1 "Surveying the Landscape & Possibilities" - ConferenceCall_2009_12_17
 * OntologySummit2010 Launch Event - ConferenceCall_2009_12_10
 * Communitywide brainstorming and planning session Ontology Summit 2010 - ConferenceCall_2009_11_05
 * OntologySummit2010: Key Content Pages
 * OntologySummit2010_PertinentQuestions
 * [ontology-summit] discussion list archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/
 * to subscribe to this discussion list: send a blank message from your subscribing email address to  or visit http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/ and subscribe yourself there
 * Homepage of OntologySummit2009 - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2009
 * OntologySummit2009_Communique
 * Homepage of OntologySummit2008 - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2008
 * OntologySummit2008_Communique
 * Homepage of OntologySummit2007 - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007
 * OntologySummit2007_Communique
 * Homepage of UpperOntologySummit (2006) - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit
 * UpperOntologySummit/UosJointCommunique

Theme: OntologySummit2010 - Creating the Ontologists of the Future
This is our 5th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO and IAOA with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future" and was launched on 10-Dec-2009. Like previous years, this Ontology Summit will comprise of three months of virtual discourse, over our archived mailing lists, wiki, and virtual panel sessions (like this one), and will culminate in a 2-day face-to-face workshop/symposium to be held on Mon & Tue, 15 & 16-March-2010 at NIST (Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.)


 * Session Topic: Synthesizing the Community Input


 * . Abstract:


 * We shall be spending time at this session to look through the survey results and make sense of of the collective community input. Each of our 3 survey/study designers will present the collected input, make a first cut synthesis, and, in particular identify specific input that might impact what we produce as our consolidated "training content" document.
 * The session will then go into Q&A and open discussion.

Agenda & Proceedings:
OntologySummit2010 - virtual panel-5 - Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"


 * Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
 * 1. Opening - chair: SteveRay (5 min.)
 * 2. Panelists' Presentation of Survey Findings - (20 min. each)
 * 2.1 "What Are We Training For?" - AmandaVizedom [ [ slides] ]
 * 2.2 "State of Ontologist Education" - ArturoSanchez & AntonyGalton [ [ slides] ]
 * 2.3 "Future of The Ontology Discipline" - ElizabethFlorescu & PeterYim [ [ slides] ]
 * 3. Q & A and open discussion on what the community wants to achieve in this Summit (All ~30 min.) -- please refer to process above
 * 4. Conclusion / Follow-up - chair: SteveRay

Transcript of the online chat during the session:
see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

Welcome to the OntologySummit2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010

OntologySummit2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"


 * Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"


 * Chair: Dr. SteveRay

Results) o Professor ArturoSanchez & Dr. AntonyGalton - "State of Ontologist Education and Training" (Reporting on Education Survey-1 Results) o Mrs. ElizabethFlorescu & Mr. PeterYim - "Future of Ontologists" (Reporting on Future RTDelphi Study-3 Results) . Please refer to details on the session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_03_04#nid2A5L.
 * Panelists: o Dr. AmandaVizedom - "What Are We Training For?" (Reporting on Requirements Survey-2

anonymous morphed into AmandaVizedom

anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu

anonymous morphed into RaviSharma

anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu

anonymous morphed into BruceBray

anonymous morphed into Megan Mickelson

RaviSharma: @Amamnda: Wonderful work and presentation, Analytics rich and usable by us as we move forward even post Summit. Regards. Ravi

SteveRay: Interesting to note that only a quarter of respondents are from education. That's good for broad coverage.

RaviSharma: @Amanda: For later response - Since I did not save my answers, can I retrieve my own answers to compare where I stand in the overall responses. I do not want acesss to others surveys?

AmandaVizedom: @Ravi - I don't think that there is any way to do that.

Megan Mickelson: @Amanda: I'm sorry if you covered this, but who exactly was surveyed?

ArturoSanchez: @Megan: see - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_Survey

Megan Mickelson: Thank you Arturo

ArturoSanchez: @Megan: my pleasure

AmandaVizedom: @Megan: The link Arturo provided gives intended audience. However, we didn't have an obvious way to communicate the invitation and motivation to that audience. In fact, we ended up stepping-out the solicitation in a somewhat ad-hoc way, starting with members of the Ontolog and Ontology Summit mailing lists and requesting that members help to distribute the solicitation further. We also asked participants in sessions like this one to provide further suggestions. I collected those suggestions and others provided in the survey, on the mailing list, or in direct communication, and sent email solicitations to those people as well. Finally, I posted the broad solicitation text on the wiki (as linked on the Surveys main page) in order to have a link to post in short forms such as Twitter. This I tweeted, in various forms, to hashtags: #ontology, some pickup and ReTweet action, but with more lead time I think we could expect more. I also posted to the related LinkedIn groups I could find.
 * 1) linkeddata, #semantic, #semanticweb, #ontologysummit2010, #iswc2009, #tbc09, perhaps others. It got

AmandaVizedom: @Megan - That's just the broad sweeps. I also pinged my own professional contacts; I expect others did, too.

Megan Mickelson: Thank you, Amanda.

AmandaVizedom: @Megan, and all: You're welcome. Note that the survey is still open through 11 Mar - I will do an update before the Symposium. Please feel free to pass along to others you think should contribute!

ArturoSanchez: Yes, very good session! We should have more sessions like that!

SteveRay: @Amanda: It would be good to cross-check slide 16 results with the proposed curriculum.

SteveRay: @Amanda: Similarly with slide 28.

SteveRay: @Peter: We need to be careful to distinguish mass understanding from mass appreciation, of ontology. The RT Delphi study asked about mass understanding.

PeterYim: @Steve: fair, point well taken ... that said, I was using "appreciation" in a loose colloquial sense (note: it's not on the slide (slide#13)) ... since "appreciation" for mathematics, physics or music takes on rather different meanings [this clarification was added subsequently]

AmandaVizedom: Addendum to what Peter is saying: much of the European and/or Academic development is not addressed to the what I perceive as the largest persistent needs. At ISWC, many of the presenters agreed but had no way of getting actual industrial use cases.

RaviSharma: @Amanda: Just to record the Question slightly out of scope but related to Peter's Comment, I was wondering if it is possible to filter or project likelihood of decision maker type professionals / managers views in support of ontologies, may be we have to do another federal and R&D manager's survey to be able to get an idea of their awareness of power of ontologies to solve their problems.

AmandaVizedom: Agree with Arturo about opportunity in Health area. Want to add: Transparency and Interoperability are also funded priorities in the US now. Not clear to me whether the communication path between those with the need and those with the solution is any better.

Jeremy Arca: Wondering if anyone can recommend some good Ontology development courses that one can take?

MariaKeet: @amanda: on lack of industry use cases: could it be that industry does not want to shout around they are using ontologies, as competitive advantage?

AmandaVizedom: @Maria: possibly, but also many orgs needing semantic solutions are gov and don't have good mechanisms for doing so.

AmandaVizedom: Recording my comment on the phone:There has been some off-line suggestion that we develop mechanisms of gathering info on an ongoing basis. The idea would be to further develop these snapshots and create some means of regularly updating them. For future discussion...

PeterYim: The survey results are accessible from the Survey page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_Survey (look towards the end of each section)

Jeremy Arca: There is a Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences (HCLS) Interest Group ... http://ow.ly/16EET1

ArturoSanchez: @Jeremy Arca: yes, I was aware of it ... thanks!

JoelBender: Thank you!

MariaKeet: thanks for conducting and synthesising the survey results! bye

RaviSharma: @Steve: are there requirements other than NIST ack of participation request.

RaviSharma: thanks.

PeterYim: thank you all for participation ... talk to you again next Thu 2010.03.11 at the "Sync-up" virtual session, before we all head toward the Mar 15&16 Symposium

PeterYim: -- session ended 12:3 pm PST --

-- end of chat session --


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An Open Invitation
If you do find this initiative interesting or useful, we cordially invite you to join us in the "Ontology Summit 2010" virtual discourse that will be taking place in the next 3 months or so, and to the face-to-face workshop that will be held on 15 & 16-March-2010 as part of the NIST Interoperability Week in Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.


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