ConferenceCall 2007 06 07

= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2007-06-07 =

Key Topic: Thursday, 7-Jun-2007 - we are planning to devote this week's conference call to discussing follow-up actions and plans from the OntologySummit2007.

Conference Call Details

 * Date: Thursday, June 7, 2007 
 * Start Time: 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 6:30pm BST / 17:30 GMT/UTC
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Attendees

 * Attended:
 * PeterYim
 * SusanTurnbull
 * KenBaclawski
 * ArnoldYim
 * MichaelGruninger
 * BillMcCarthy
 * SteveRay
 * OlivierBodenreider (will need to leave early)
 * BobSmith
 * TomGruber
 * LeoObrst (will need to leave early for another telecon)
 * GaryBergCross
 * DougHolmes
 * DeborahMcGuinness


 * Expecting:
 * FrankOlken (will have to leave early for another meeting)
 * MelliyalAnnamalai

... (please insert your name above or RSVP by e-mailing  offline)


 * Regrets:
 * PeterBrown
 * NicolaGuarino
 * MarkMusen
 * ChrisMenzel
 * JohnSowa

Agenda Ideas

 * discuss OntologySummit2007 follow-up items brought up during the 2007.05.03 (postmortem) and 2007.05.17 meeting. (see details below)


 * scheduling an updated presentation on BillMcCarthy and GuidoGeerts' REA Ontology and ISO 15944-4, in the light of our DatabaseAndOntology perspective, and how that fares in the [[OntologySummit2007]-Framework Population exercise].

... (please insert your ideas here)

Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda


 * SteveRay took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes


 * PeterYim volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants


 * see above


 * Welcome to new Ontolog community members

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)


 * Scheduled Ontolog Events:
 * Thursday, 28-Jun-2007 - We had the 8th Event in the "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - The session was co-chaired by Dr. Matthew West and Dr. Susie Stephens. Dr. SouripriyaDas and Dr. MelliyalAnnamalai from Oracle were their invited speakers who gave a talk on: "Building Database Infrastructure for Managing Semantic Data". ... Please refer to details at the session wiki page, at: ConferenceCall_2007_06_28 ... Audio archives of the session is now available!
 * Thursday, 05-Jul-2007 - Dr. Matthew West presented the 9th Event in the "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - ChrisPartridge from the BORO Center, UK was our invited speaker. He gave a talk on "Data and process revisited: ontology driving a paradigm shift in the development of business application systems." ... Please refer to details at the session wiki page, at: ConferenceCall_2007_07_05 ... Audio archives of the session is now available!
 * Thursday, 12-Jul-2007 - Dr. Susie Stephens and Dr. Matthew West presented the 10th Event in the "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - Dr. John Sowa from VivoMind Intelligence was be our invited speaker. Dr. Sowa gave a talk on: "Analogical Reasoning With and About Databases and Knowledge Bases". Please refer to details at the session wiki page, at: ConferenceCall_2007_07_12 ... Audio archives of the session is now available!


 * Other upcoming events of interest - see: RelevantEventsOfInterest2007


 * on deck are - more talk in the DatabaseAndOntology series, BillAndersen, MarkMusen,DeborahMcGuinness, JohnBateman, ... etc. etc.
 * KenBaclawski: also on Uncertainty & Decision Support, possibility to grow that into a mini-series
 * Jeanne Holm and possibility of other NASA/JPL prespectives
 * KenBaclawski: suggestions for another session featuring new developments in triples- and quads- stores; Ken will ping MatthewWest on it.
 * Leo: suggest trying to have people from Franz (Allgero Graph) & OWLIM (Ontotext) from Bulgaria

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues - item skipped

6) Follow-ups from previous calls - item skipped

7) Current Project Status Report - item skipped


 * Current Project Status Review:


 * Status CctRepresentation and UblOntology project work.


 * Status of ProtegeKIF project work.


 * status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work. No progress was reported.


 * status of OntologTaxoThesaurus project work
 * KenBaclawski, DeniseBedford and BobSmith would want to see some of the summit survey results incorporated into this project. KenBaclawski has joined the list, but no recent activity has occurred.


 * status of OntologyDrivenApplications compilation work.


 * status of the ONION project startup.


 * UBL liaison report
 * SICoP / ONTAC liaison report
 * NCOR liaison report


 * Planning team report - see item 8c below

8) Key Issues discussion:

interesting project to follow up on Olivier's suggestion of an academic paper, if there are no other takers; that during the week starting 18th June. So far I've only had feedback from Nancy Wiegand, Jack Teller and Bob Smith and nothing since the revised diagram was done. Don't know whether to conclude that revised version is OK, or that it's not a focus of attention. I found Bob's comment particularly interesting that he has already used in twice "to explain what it is we are trying to do in an ontology project" - so it does seem to have some illustrative value, particularly in "selling" our work outside the immediate Summit and Forum...
 * Follow-up action from OntologySummit2007:
 * Steve / Peter: we want to do a better follow-up on the Summit outcome this year
 * still seeing the Summit objectives and positions being mis-interpreted by some.
 * need to properly document and communicate that to the broader community
 * Leo: will ping NicolaGuarino about doing a journal paper for "Applied Ontology"
 * Nicola / 2007.06.01 - "in principle there is no problem in publishing an announcement paper similar to that we published last year, of course it will undergo the usual review process. It may appear on issue 2, 2007 (issue 1 is in press right now)."
 * this will be a reporting paper, separate and distinct from the academic paper (mentioned below)
 * MichaelGruninger agreed to be the lead author
 * Olivier: would be nice to do an academic paper ... anyone?
 * Leo: I would participate, also suggesting people like AldoGangemi
 * Deborah: I am also willing to participate in this.
 * PeterBrown / 2007.05.31: I have a new researcher starting with us soon, and it might be an
 * Ken: good idea to do a write-up and push it to wikipedia
 * brought up on 2007.05.17:
 * updating the diagram to make it jive with the communique better
 * PeterBrown / 2007.05.31: I will update the diagram but will only be able to devote some time to
 * PeterYim: also looking for a confirmation to the who was on team-Z - item skipped
 * more work into the framework and associated metric
 * inviting more examples of artifacts being populated into the framework
 * Michael / Ken: this will almost be a prerequisite for the academic paper, since we are including some informal artifacts in the framework, example will be important to help get our point across
 * and making sense of the framework population (continuing with the exercise which Denise, Olivier & Tom had started during the summit F2F sessions)
 * Steve: we can use the Ontolog wiki as the workspace to get the 'population', 'wikipedia article' draft,
 * Ken: I will champion the "populating" of the framework (on the Ontolog wiki) and get more input from people
 * Tom: I'll champion the wikipedia paper with some consensus from this community
 * note that I started something right after the summit - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2007-04/msg00182.html & OntologyDistinctions

evolving frameworks that advance ontology]
 * a retrospect on the OntologySummit2007 group process and dynamics - maybe at SusanTurnbull's CEW#63 on 2007.07.17
 * need 1~2 speakers 30~45 muinutes, and a panel in the afternoon
 * Peter: I'll help with the coordination
 * Steve: I plan to attend and will chime in, but will not be the lead
 * Susan: also extending an invitation for talks on Aug-14 on Mapping of science -- "visualization" and "knowledge maps" . See background links:
 * Places and Spaces: Mapping Science
 * [http://www.infovis.net/printMag.php?num=170&lang=2 Exploring Mapping Science, knowledge domains, and implications to


 * update on the audio archive - session recordings are all posted (thanks to NIST and recent contribution from ArnoldYim) now, presentation audio segments will also be posted soon.


 * scheduling an updated presentation on BillMcCarthy and GuidoGeerts' REA Ontology and ISO 15944-4, in the light of our DatabaseAndOntology perspective, and how that fares in the [[OntologySummit2007]-Framework Population exercise].
 * ref. also (discussion thread) - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-06/msg00026.html
 * Thu 2007.09.06 or 2007.09.13 are possible dates (as suggested by BillMcCarthy and ChrisPartridge)
 * Bill: I'll pick Thu 2007.09.06


 * synthesis of forum discussions between Feb~Apr.2007 by PatHayes, ChrisMenzel and to be reviewed by JohnSowa - item skipped

9) New project proposals.


 * will continue to pursue the "informal ontology" mini-series idea mentioned last week - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_05_31#nid11GG

10) Sponsorship and funding.

11) Other business.


 * Suggestion for DatabaseAndOntology mini-series from SusanTurnbull:
 * Data Explosion strains peer review - NIST steps in with a system for researchers to exchange and validate scientific data

12) Next meeting date and adjourn


 * Our next meeting/call will be the Thu 2007.06.14, same time. Details will be at ConferenceCall_2007_06_14 closer to the time ... talk to you then!


 * this call session adjourned 11:40 am PDT

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