ConferenceCall 2012 05 17

= Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012_05_17 =

Session Topic: "Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities"

Session Co-chair: GeorgeThomas (HHS), JesseWang (SMWcon-Spring2012 / Vulcan) & PeterYim (Ontolog / CIM3) - slides

Panelists:


 * JoelNatividad (Ontodia) - "NYCFacets: Metadata, Extrametadata & Crowdknowing" -  slides
 * WilSmith (Vulcan) - "LDIF: Linked Data Integration Framework" - slides
 * StephenLarson (Neuroscience Information Framework) - "NeuroLex: A Semantic Wiki for Neuroscience" - slides
 * JonWeers (Nrel.gov) - "OpenEI: LOD Success Stories" - slides
 * BernadetteHyland (W3C / 3RoundStones) - "A Linked Data Approach for Integrating Multi-scale Models & Data for Human Health & the Environment" - slides
 * PeterYim, LeoObrst, MikeDean, KenBaclawski (OOR) - "Leveraging OOR in Big Open Data" - slides


 * JeanneHolm, ChrisMusialek and AndrewNicklin will return (after last week's panel) to participate as discussants on the panel today (no briefing)

Archives:


 * Abstract
 * Agenda
 * Prepared presentation material (slides) can be accessed by clicking on each of the title links below:
 * [ 0-Thomas ] . [ 1-Natividad ] . [ 2-Smith ] . [ 3-Larson ] . [ 4-Weers ] . [ 5-Hyland ] . [ 6-Yim-Baclawski-Dean-Obrst ]
 * Audio recording of the session [ 1:57:27 ; mp3 ; 13.44 MB ]
 * transcript of the online chat during the session
 * Additional Resources

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Attendees

 * Attended: (incl. registered participants who may not have entered the chat-space to be counted)
 * GeorgeThomas (co-chair)
 * JesseWang (co-chair)
 * PeterYim (co-chair)
 * JoelNatividad
 * WilSmith
 * StephenLarson
 * JonWeers
 * BernadetteHyland
 * KenBaclawski
 * MikeDean
 * LeoObrst
 * JeanneHolm
 * ChrisMusialek
 * AndrewNicklin
 * SamiBaig
 * JoanneLuciano
 * ShivaSaberi
 * MarthaPrzysucha
 * LisaHartigan
 * PaulenaMeyer
 * TedThibodeauJr
 * CharlesEngle
 * FeliciaSweet
 * AmandaVizedom
 * BoNewman
 * JohnGregory
 * RaviSharma
 * JackPark
 * DavidMason
 * MarieJeanMeurs
 * RamaMoorthy
 * JackRing
 * KenAllgood
 * ToddSchneider
 * KingsleyIdehen
 * MarleneRockmore
 * ElizabethFlorescu
 * TydeRichards
 * BillNadal
 * BobPowers
 * KevinHannon
 * TomTinsley
 * WillaPickering
 * EdDodds
 * VernonWoolf
 * FrankOlken
 * TerryLongstreth
 * EricChan
 * Gary Berg-Cross
 * DeniseWarzel
 * LinePouchard
 * PavithraKenjige
 * AnushriMishra
 * JakubMoskal
 * SimonSpero
 * SpyrosKotoulas


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 * DeirdreLee

Abstract
Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities

This is the second of two sessions jointly organized by the US federal data.gov initiative and Ontolog; with the support from NYC-open-data, SMWcon-Spring2012, and OOR.

The two sessions on 'Big Open Data' follows quite naturally from a few very exciting recent events, notably:


 * (a) the recent US federal government's thrust toward developing and leveraging 'Big Data'
 * (b) the 3-month long OntologySummit2012 series of events that just finished a few weeks ago that was focused around the theme 'Ontology for Big Systems' and
 * (c) New York City's award of their 'Big Apps 3.0' grand prize to NYCfacets (developed by a member of this community) and the City's 'open data' initiative that followed.

During today's session, we will look more closely on the technology and the implementation details that will make 'Big Open Data' work in government open data initiatives, and discuss how open collaborative community efforts can help.

Agenda
Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities


 * Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call


 * 1. Opening (chair) - GeorgeThomas [5~10 min.] ... [ slides ]
 * 2. Panel briefings [10 min. each; we'll hold off questions until later]
 * JoelNatividad - "NYCFacets: Metadata, Extrametadata & Crowdknowing"
 * WilSmith - "LDIF: Linked Data Integration Framework"
 * StephenLarson - "NeuroLex: A Semantic Wiki for Neuroscience"
 * JonWeers - "OpenEI: LOD Success Stories"
 * BernadetteHyland - "A Linked Data Approach for Integrating Multi-scale Models & Data for Human Health & the Environment"
 * PeterYim, LeoObrst, MikeDean, KenBaclawski - "Leveraging OOR in Big Open Data"
 * 3. Panel discussion - reactions from the panel - JeanneHolm, ChrisMusialek, AndrewNicklin and All panelists [~20 min.]
 * 4. Q & A and open discussion [All: ~20 min.] - (moderated by the co-chairs)  -- please refer to process above
 * 5. Wrap-up / Announcements - (chair)

Proceedings:
Please refer to the above

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

[09:21] PeterYim: Welcome to the

= Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session-II - Thu 2012-05-17 =

Session Topic: "Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities"

Session Co-chairs:
 * GeorgeThomas (Data.gov / HHS)
 * JesseWang (SMWcon-Spring2012 / Vulcan) &
 * PeterYim (Ontolog / CIM3)

Panel Briefings:

- "A Linked Data Approach for Integrating Multi-scale Models & Data for Human Health & the Environment"
 * JoelNatividad (Ontodia) - "NYCFacets: Metadata, Extrametadata & Crowdknowing"
 * WilSmith (Vulcan) - "Linked Data Integration Framework"
 * StephenLarson (Neuroscience Information Framework) - "NeuroLex: A Semantic Wiki for Neuroscience"
 * JonWeers (Nrel.gov) - "OpenEI: LOD Success Stories"
 * BernadetteHyland (W3C / 3RoundStones)
 * PeterYim, LeoObrst, MikeDean, KenBaclawski (OOR) - "Leveraging OOR in Big Open Data"

from last week's panel will also be returning to join us on the panel as discussants at this session
 * Jeanne Holm (Data.gov / NASA-JPL), Chris Musialek (Data.gov / GSA) and Andrew Nicklin (New York City)

Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_05_17

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Proceedings:
[09:15] anonymous morphed into GeorgeThomas

[09:26] anonymous1 morphed into BernadetteHyland

[09:28] anonymous11 morphed into WilSmith

[09:29] anonymous2 morphed into TomTinsley

[09:30] anonymous2 morphed into LinePouchard

[09:30] anonymous2 morphed into GaryBergCross

[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into BillNadal

[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into StephenLarson

[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into SpyrosKotoulas

[09:32] anonymous3 morphed into JakubMoskal

[09:32] anonymous1 morphed into CJR

[09:33] anonymous1 morphed into BobPowers

[09:34] anonymous morphed into TedThibodeauJr

[09:34] anonymous morphed into LisaHartigan

[09:34] anonymous1 morphed into JohnGregory

[09:35] PeterYim: -- session started 9:35am PDT --

[09:36] anonymous2: How do morph? anonymous 2 - Charlie Engle

[09:37] AmandaVizedom: Charlie - Hit "Settings" button at top, edit name.

[09:38] anonymous2 morphed into Charles Engle

[09:38] CharlesEngle: Thank you!

[09:38] AmandaVizedom: YW

[09:42] AmandaVizedom: Charles, one more hint: if you revise name again and make it one word (CharlesEngle), in the transcript it will auto-link to your profile page on the OntologWiki.

[09:43] anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu

[09:39] PeterYim: == JoelNatividad presenting ...

[09:53] PeterYim: == WilSmith presenting ...

[09:54] GeorgeThomas: Big Fan of LDIF!!

[09:55] GeorgeThomas: nice to see many of the LDIF tools in the LOD2 stack :)

[10:05] WilSmith: yea slowly pushing the rock of LDIF adoption up the mountain :)

[10:02] PeterYim: == StephenLarson presenting ...

[10:04] SimonSpero: (SunSITE set up a collaborative neuroscience environment using PARC's lamba-MOO back in 1993) This looks better

[10:19] JesseWang: LDIF has been used in Neurobase, a semantic wiki to integrate various sources of neuroscience related data. The wiki is running at http://neurowiki.alleninstitute.org/index.php/Main_Page

[10:20] JesseWang: Recap of NeuroLex talk: NIF vision: Google for neuroscience databases.NeuroLex uses semantic wiki to help integrate, curate and improve data quality (starting in vocabularies).

[10:20] PeterYim: [since JonWeers is not online yet] we are moving Bernadette's presentation up

[10:20] PeterYim: == BernadetteHyland presenting ...

[10:33] JackPark: http://callimachusproject.org looks really interesting

[10:35] GeorgeThomas: http://www.hdiforum.org/

[10:36] GeorgeThomas: the 'Health Datapalooza', as US Fed CTO Todd Park likes to say

[11:30] FrankOlken: Bernadette, It is most unfortunate that the Health Data Initiative Forum meeting is scheduled on top of SemTech (June 3~7, 2012 - San Francisco).

[10:42] anonymous1 morphed into EdDodds

[10:44] StephenLarson: Great presentation Bernadette! Definitely some areas of synergy between our efforts!

[11:01] BernadetteHyland: @StephenLarson, thank and I would really enjoy speaking to you further about your project experiences.

[11:02] StephenLarson: @Bernadette -- definitely -- lets touch base after

[10:43] PeterYim: == PeterYim, LeoObrst, MikeDean, KenBaclawski presenting ...

[10:44] anonymous1 morphed into BoNewman

[10:47] EdDodds: FYI: Announcing the next Knight News Challenge: Data - http://newschallenge.tumblr.com/post/23167779077/announcing-the-next-knight-news-challenge-data

[10:50] JackPark: http://www.nsf.gov/geo/earthcube/

[10:50] GaryBergCross: See also http://earthcube.ning.com/groups for the various EarthCube groups.

[11:08] EricChan: Ken mentioned about collaboration and social networking ontology ICOM (slide #9, OOR), which is defined by OASIS ICOM TC. The committee specification draft http://docs.oasis-open.org/icom/icom-ics/v1.0/csprd03/icom-ics-v1.0-csprd03.html is currently in public review phase. We expect the TC to approve this draft as the Committee Specification of ICOM v1 after the public review. Peter and I are nominating Ken to lead the effort for ICOM v2 to incorporate social networking model.

[11:02] PeterYim: == panel reactions now ...

[11:02] LinePouchard: who is speaking please?

[11:02] BernadetteHyland: That is JeanneHolm (Data.gov evangelist/NASA)

[11:05] StephenLarson: http://neuinfo.org/about/index.shtm

[11:03] PeterYim: I notice JonWeers is on the voice bridge now

[11:06] PeterYim: we'll try to move over to JonWeers OpenEI presentation right after this comment

[11:08] PeterYim: == JonWeers presenting ...

[11:40] JonWeers: Recaping phone convo: OpenEI is looking to host the second installment of an Internation Effort to promote LOD and Open Government initiatives. Will be looking for participants, and volunteers for organization. Feel free to contact me if interested.

[11:23] PeterYim: == open Q&A and discussion now ...

[11:23] BillNadal: great presentations, thank you! can anyone speak to the need/usage for rules in their projects or frameworks; i.e. the use of SWRL or RIF (rule interchange format)?

[11:29] GeorgeThomas: starting to experiment with RIF impl's like http://www.revelytix.com/content/rex - generally more interested in SPARQL centric approaches like http://spinrdf.org/ though

[11:26] BillNadal: [ ref. various panelists' responses and PeterYim's suggestion to check out ChrisWelty's RIF talk, and MartinOConnor's SWRL presentations on the Ontolog Event Archives ] will do, thanks

[11:28] PeterYim: == Does the community want to move things forward, after these two "Big Open Data" sessions? How?

[11:28] BoNewman: Most clearly would like to see this moved forward, only which I was in a position to contribute

[11:30] GeorgeThomas: I have a hard stop at 2:30 - want to again say thanks to Peter and the Ontolog Forum co-conveners for putting together a great session today - I'm happy to support any collaboration going forward - please see my bio page if anyone wants to follow up with me

[11:30] MikeDean: I have to drop off for another telecon. Good session!

[11:31] LeoObrst: Thanks, all!

[11:31] BernadetteHyland: I suggested that future discussions around Big Data, Open Government Data expressed as Linked Data, etc include sub-domains who can help guide use cases for the application of semantic technologies.

[11:31] EdDodds: Articles in the news recently articles related to Google's work: "Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings" http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/introducing-knowledge-graph-things-not.html fwiw

[11:31] GeorgeThomas: Things not Strings! :)

[11:31] JesseWang: I have a 11:30 meeting, got to go, thank you all for all the great presentations and discussion!

[11:32] PeterYim: @JesseWang - thank you for organizing this

[11:31] JackPark: great talks! Bye

[11:32] BernadetteHyland: This was a great forum and I learned some new things, thank you Peter, George, Jesse et all for coordinating this event & inviting the panel of speakers. Much appreciated!

[11:32] anonymous1 morphed into JonWeers

[11:32] BillNadal: Thanks George, great links

[11:34] BoNewman: I would be interested in hearing from those working in the area of multi-perpspective ontologies and the automated identification of a person or organizationals operational ontologies. bo.newman[at]km-fourm.org

[11:36] PeterYim: @BernadetteHyland - speaking on the phone now, is RaviSharma

[11:35] EdDodds: [ref. RaviSharma's verbal remarks] Frame the discussion differently: not "return on investment" but "return on innovation"

[11:39] EdDodds: Reid Hoffman could give numbers re: some of LinkedIn's data

[11:39] BernadetteHyland: @EdDodds, thanks, I'll reach out to Reid. Thank you

[11:40] EdDodds: http://crisismappers.net/ and maybe the ushahidi communties could talk about disasters mapping, etc.

[11:40] JonWeers: Recaping phone convo: OpenEI is looking to host the second installment of an Internation Effort to promote LOD and Open Government initiatives. Will be looking for participants, and volunteers for organization. Feel free to contact me if interested.

[11:40] StephenLarson: Thanks for organizing a great session. Honored to be a part of it!

[11:41] JonWeers: Thank you everyone! My apologies for my late arrival.

[11:42] BernadetteHyland: I was hoping JeanneHolm would announce the upcoming International Open Government Data Conference at the World Bank July 10-12, 2012. Since she must have had to drop off, I forward this info FYR - They are accepting proposals for sessions and speakers now: http://www.data.gov/communities/conference

[11:42] PeterYim: Great session ... HUGE THANK YOU to all the presenters; and thanks, everyone, for the participation!

[11:42] BernadetteHyland: Thank you!

[11:45] PeterYim: @Bernadette - Thank YOU for the great talk; and, of course the leadership in moving things forward!

[11:41] PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:41am PDT --

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --

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Additional Resources:

 * the US federal Data.gov initiative - http://data.gov
 * Cities.data.gov initiative - http://cities.data.gov
 * The 'NYCfacets' app - http://nyc.pediacities.com/facets/
 * announcement on NYCFacets winning the Grand Prize at [[NYCBigApps] 3.0]
 * NYC Open Data - http://nyc.gov/datastandards or http://nycopendata.pediacities.com/wiki/index.php/NYC_Open_Data
 * webcast of the White House 'Big Data' event of 29-Mar-2012 - http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_videos.jsp?cntn_id=123607&media_id=72174
 * initiatives and related program solicitations highlighted during the above event can be found on the NSF press release at: http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=123607
 * a presentation of the upcoming NITRD 'Big Data Challenge' at the 13-Apr-2012 OntologySummit2012_Symposium - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2012_Symposium#nid397A
 * SMWcon-Spring2012 - http://smwcon.projecthalo.com/index.php/SMWCon_Spring_2012
 * OpenOntologyRepository (OOR) - http://oor.net
 * OntologySummit2012: "Ontology for Big Systems"
 * read the OntologySummit2012_Communique - the collaboratively authored work product by the OntologySummit community that took 3 months in rigorous discourse to develop


 * Last week's session - "Fostering 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration" - ConferenceCall_2012_05_10

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