ConferenceCall 2009 01 22

= SemanticWiki mini-series Session-4 - Thu 22-Jan-2009 =


 * Mini-series Title: Semantic Wikis: The Wiki Way to the Semantic Web


 * Session-4 Topic: Semantic Wiki Applications & Use Cases (1): vertical applications


 * Session Chair: Mr. MikeDean (BBN) & Mr. PeterYim (CIM3; Ontolog) - [ slides ]


 * Panelists:
 * Mr. HaroldSolbrig / Dr. GuoqianJiang (Mayo Clinic - 3 talks); Dr. JieBao (RPI/TWC); Mr. ChristophLange (Jacobs University)


 * Panel Presentations:
 * (1) Mr. HaroldSolbrig - " LexWiki - a common model for importing, rendering and proposing revisions to ontology resources in the SemanticMediaWiki" - [ slides ]
 * (2) Mr. HaroldSolbrig - " BiomedGT - LexWiki, SemanticMediaWiki and the Biomedical Grid Terminology" - [ slides ]
 * (3) Dr. GuoqianJiang - "WHO ICD11 Wiki - LexWiki, SemanticMediaWiki and the International Classification of Diseases" - [ slides ]
 * (4) Dr. JieBao - "Mesh-up Map and Events on Semantic http://c2.com/cgi/wiki? Applications in e-Science and Campus Information System" - [ slides ]
 * (5) Mr. ChristophLange - "Semantic Wikis for Mathematics -- a State-of-the-Art Survey" - [ slides ]


 * Lightning Talks: - [ Please note that: in order for the community to be exposed to the full range of technologies, an IPR policy waiver is applicable to this  segment of the program. Therefore, technologies presented in these "Lightning Talks" do not necessarily fall into the "free and open" technology category. The presentation materials (slides, recording of the talks), however, are still licensed by all these speakers as open content, and our IPR Policy still applies in that regard.  =ppy ]
 * These are 1-slide, 3-min (max) talks open to anyone who has something relevant to present. To get a slot please email your talk title, a one-paragraph abstract, and your slide to . Titles and Slides has to be received by end-of-day Wed 21-Jan-2009 to be scheduled in.
 * (L1) Mr. DanielHansch (ontoprise) - "SMW+ 1.4 - shrink wrap semantic wiki product for collaborative project management" - [ slides ]
 * (L2) Professor KeiCheung (Yale) - "Wiki Neuron: A SemanticMediaWiki Prototype in Neuroscience" - [ slides ]


 * Resources:
 * Slides:
 * Panelists' presentations: . [ 0-Chair ] . [ 1-Solbrig ] . [ 2-Solbrig ] . [ 3-Jiang ] . [ 4-Bao ] . [ 5-Lange ]
 * Lightning Talks: . [ L1-Hansch ] . [ L2-Cheung ]
 * Audio Recording of the session (mp3)
 * Transcript of the online chat session during the panel discussion


 * see developing program at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SemanticWiki/Prep#nid1NQH

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Attendees

 * Attended:
 * MikeDean
 * PeterYim
 * HaroldSolbrig
 * GuoqianJiang
 * ChristophLange
 * JieBao
 * DanielHansch
 * KeiCheung
 * KurtConrad
 * TobiasKuhn
 * MikeAxelrod
 * MarcoNeumann
 * KenBaclawski
 * MikeBennett
 * Ted Kitzmiller (Boeing)
 * PhilippZaltenbach
 * John Thompson (Boeing)
 * DougHolmes
 * RobFrost
 * BruceBray
 * Chris Mitchell
 * Rick Kiefer
 * Jason Zou
 * YaronKoren
 * JohnMcClure
 * SusanTurnbull


 * Expecting:
 * LiDing
 * MarcWine
 * OthelRolle
 * ElgarPichler
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 * Regrets:
 * EdDodds
 * DoraiThodla

SemanticWiki mini-series Background
The Semantic Wiki mini-series a 6-month mini-series comprising Talks, Panel Discussions and Online Discourse. The series is co-organized by FZI Karlsruhe, Mayo Clinic, Ontolog, RPI Tetherless World Constellation and Salzburg Research, Austria. This represents a collaborative effort between members from academia, research, software engineering, semantic web and ontology communities. The 6-month mini-series intends to bring together developers, administrators and users of semantic wikis, and provide a platform where they can conveniently share ideas and insights. Through a series of (mainly virtual) talks, panel discussions, online discourse and even face-to-face meetings, participants will survey the state-of-the-art in semantic wiki technology and get exposure to exemplary use cases and applications. Together, they will study trends, challenges and the outlook for semantic wikis, and explore opportunities for collaboration in the very promising technology, approach or philosophy which people has labeled "semantic wiki."

This series of virtual events will dovetail into the face-to-face workshop: "Social Semantic Web: Where Web 2.0 Meets Web 3.0" at the AAAI Spring Symposium (March 23-25, 2009 at Stanford, California, USA - see: http://tw.rpi.edu/sss09 ).

See: our SemanticWiki mini-series homepage and the developing program for the rest of the series.

Agenda & Proceedings:

 * Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call.


 * Agenda:
 * 1. Opening by the Session Chair
 * 2. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants - we may skip this if we have more than 25 participants (in which case, it will be best if members try to update their namesake pages on this wiki prior to the call so that everyone can get to know who's who more easily.) (All - total: ~15 minutes)
 * 3. Panelists' Presentations - (15 min. max. each)
 * 4. Lightning Talks - (3 min. max. each)
 * 5. Q&A and Open Discussion - ALL (~20 min.)
 * 6. Summary / Announcement / Conclusion - session chair

Session Abstract: Semantic Wiki Applications & Use Cases (1): vertical applications
by MikeDean & PeterYim


 * Semantic wikis have grown beyond their initial use as community-developed web sites to support full applications, often as web portals. Today's session will focus on "vertical" applications specific to a given domain, while Session 5 will focus on "horizontal" applications that are more domain neutral.


 * The purpose of this session is to showcase some of the domain specific applications that utilize semantic wikis. Our panelists will be presenting applications in the Biomedical Informatics, Healthcare, Mapping and Mathematics domains.


 * Mr. HaroldSolbrig / Dr. GuoqianJiang (Mayo Clinic)
 * Talk-1 (15 min.) " LexWiki - a common model for importing, rendering and proposing revisions to ontology resources in the SemanticMediaWiki"
 * Abstract: We describe why we need a common model of terminological resources in the SemanticMediaWiki. We then briefly describe LexGrid, a model that has been developed to span the terminology / thesaurus / ontology boundaries and how we have implemented it in the SemanticMediaWiki environment.
 * Talk-2 (15 min.) " BiomedGT - LexWiki, SemanticMediaWiki and the Biomedical Grid Terminology"
 * Abstract: This presentation describes how the SemanticMediaWiki and the LexWiki toolkit are being used in the workflow and curation of the Biomedical Grid Terminology ( BiomedGT ).
 * Talk-3 (15 min.) "WHO ICD11 Wiki - LexWiki, SemanticMediaWiki and the International Classification of Diseases"
 * Abstract: This presentation describes how the LexWiki based on SemanticMediaWiki is being used for both browsing and authoring support in a World Health Organization (WHO) International Classification of Diseases (ICD) revision project.

map and lists of integrated campus-based information, e.g., building, events, course and people; 2) the VSTO Map project, which display a map of scientific instruments, e.g. observatory locations and real-time satellite positions.
 * Dr. JieBao / Jin Guang Zheng / Rui Huang / Dr. LiDing (RPI/TWC)
 * Talk-4 (15 min.) "Mesh-up Map and Events on Semantic http://c2.com/cgi/wiki? Applications in e-Science and Campus Information System"
 * Abstract: In this talk we share our experience on integrating events and geographical information using the SemanticMediaWiki platform. The TetherlessMap extension is used to present geographical information generated by semantic query. Two applications of the extension will be introduced: 1) the RPI Map project, which displays a
 * see Tetherless Map extension at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tetherless_Map

is still a lack of support for (web) collaboration on mathematical knowledge. In this talk, I present a short survey on (more or less) semantic wikis for managing mathematical knowledge. The challenge of agility vs. formal correctness will be of special interest. The talk concludes with an outlook into (inter)active mathematical documents and integrating them with my mathematical semantic wiki SWiM.
 * ChristophLange (Jacobs University)
 * Talk-5 (15 min.) "Semantic Wikis for Mathematics -- a State-of-the-Art Survey"
 * Abstract: Modern mathematical research is supported by computers in many ways, but there


 * Lighting Talks, 3 minutes each
 * Mr. DanielHansch (ontoprise) - "SMW+ 1.4 - shrink wrap semantic wiki product for collaborative project management"
 * Professor KeiCheung (Yale) - "Wiki Neuron: A SemanticMediaWiki Prototype in Neuroscience"
 * Abstract: There have been an increasing number of Bio-Wiki projects including Gene Wiki, WikiProteins, WikiPathways, Proteopedia, SNPedia, etc. To expand the Wiki frontier in life sciences, we have created a collaborative and semantically enabled Wiki prototype for the neuroscience domain, which is called "Wiki Neuron" (http://neuroweb3.med.yale.edu/mediawiki/index.php/WikiNeuron). This prototype allows us to explore the benefits of semantic wiki technologies in collective and collaborative neuroscience knowledge acquisition, annotation, and integration. We plan to transform the prototype into a collaboratory by working with the Neuroscience Information Framework (http://nif.nih.gov/) that aims at enhancing neuroscience research by enabling discovery and access to research data and tools.

Questions and Discussion captured from the chat session:
Edited transcript ...

PeterYim: Welcome to the SemanticWiki mini-series Session-4 - Thu 22-Jan-2009


 * Mini-series Title: Semantic Wikis: The Wiki Way to the Semantic Web
 * Session-4 Topic: Semantic Wiki Applications & Use Cases (1): vertical applications
 * Session Chair: Mr. MikeDean (BBN) & Mr. PeterYim (CIM3; Ontolog)
 * Panelists: Mr. HaroldSolbrig / Dr. GuoqianJiang (Mayo Clinic); Dr. JieBao / Dr. LiDing (RPI/TWC); Mr. ChristophLange (Jacobs University)

VNC2: Please remember to change your name (via "Settings") to your WikiWord name for proper identification and attribution. Thanks.

ChristophLange: "grid" (in LexGrid) is not related to "grid computing" here, is it?

PeterYim: @ChristophLange re. "LexGrid" ... the answer is no ... see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LexGrid

ChristophLange: @PeterYim: thanks!

HaroldSolbrig: LexGrid was created to enable a distributed "grid" of terminology resources. It is used as a grid node in the caBIG project, but it isn't a "grid computing" resource in the classic sense. ... btw, it was originally built using LDAP.

YaronKoren: Maybe it's worth talking about your workflow-functionality needs on the SMW users mailing list.

PhilippZaltenbach: Harold: how do you use the SKOS elements within SMW? Do you integrate them with semantic forms or do you let the people freely annotate article contents with SKOS properties?

HaroldSolbrig: Where appropriate, we map the LexWiki to SKOS - the RDF rendering for "comment" is the SKOS equivalent, so it comes out "SKOS".

HaroldSolbrig: We are looking forward to the new SKOS release, as it provides better alignment with other resources (DC and OWL)

YaronKoren: Are you using the "Equivalent URI" property?

HaroldSolbrig: Yes, although more in the RDF/SKOS/OWL rendering.

HaroldSolbrig: We also need to revise the RDF dump. We're stuck on an old version because the Protege importer is fixed (this is BiomedGT, btw. ICD11 has more flexibility)

PhilippZaltenbach: ic, we plan to directly integrate some core elements of SKOS within our next Halo release, in order to allow people to create and maintain terminologies / thesauri

HaroldSolbrig: That covers a portion of the space...

JieBao: [note: missed putting this into the slides] Tetherless Map extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tetherless_Map

Jason Zou: Having core elements of SKOS integrate into wiki will save me a lot of work. I am looking forward to the new release of Halo.

HaroldSolbrig: http://wiktolog.com/agrowiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

HaroldSolbrig: These pages are a bit dated - I keep meaning to get a more recent update...

HaroldSolbrig: ... posted. We've revised it internally.

PhilippZaltenbach: thx for the link. i think the plan for the next release of halo is scheduled at the beginning of march.

GuoqianJiang: good to know. is that rule extension incorporated?

GuoqianJiang: I mean the simple rule extension introduced in last ontolog session

PhilippZaltenbach: yeah, i know what you mean. unfortunately not, since we have not the resources at the moment to develop it further.

GuoqianJiang: I see, thanks

PeterYim: @ChristophLange - on your slide#12 what do parentheses (like "(y) or "(n)") denote? ... as opposed to a normal "y" or "n"

ChristophLange: @PeterYim: (y) roughly means "yes, but...", consider e.g. metadata in SlugMath: as it is SMW, it _would_ support metadata, but it doesn't have any particular metadata vocabulary installed

ChristophLange: (n) -- e.g. verification in SWiM: the knowledge representation (the OMDoc language) would permit it (with converters from/to theorem proving languages existing), but the wiki does not yet expose this on the user interface

ChristophLange: and by y/n i meant "yes in some regard, but no in others", e.g. semantic formulae in ASciencePad : mostly you enter formulas by their appearance and the system does not understand them, but if you draw a graph or compute something, the system does interpret a formula

YaronKoren: If we order now, will you throw in a free set of knives?

MikeAxelrod: lol

KeiCheung: [note: missed putting this into the slide] http://neuroweb3.med.yale.edu/mediawiki/index.php/WikiNeuron

DanielHansch: My credits go to Mike Axelrod who has built SMW+ 1.4's project management ontology. Thanks Mike! Great work!!

MikeAxelrod: Thank you Daniel

YaronKoren: WikiNeuron - cool.

KeiCheung: thanks!

KeiCheung: I'm using some of your extensions.

YaronKoren: When will it be released? I didn't hear, if you said it.

KeiCheung: it's still ongoing and I'll keep you and others posted. Also, I'd like to interact with you and others in terms of expanding it if it's OK with you ...

YaronKoren: Sure.

KeiCheung: great!

YaronKoren: Also, feel free to write the SMW and SF mailing lists.

KeiCheung: will do.

ChristophLange: Announcement: call for papers for the 4th semantic wiki workshop (Crete, Greece, 31 May) is out: http://semwiki.org

YaronKoren: John - are you asking about SMW, or in general?

YaronKoren: (How do you unmute?)

ChristophLange: [ *2 ]

DanielHansch: by all together. thx for the interesting presentations.

ChristophLange: generally, talking about external (= non-wiki) resources in a sem. wiki is interesting IMHO

ChristophLange: @JohnMcClure: [ ref. your question about work on attaching documents to a semantic wiki and drawing semantics from the attached documents; essentially any work in the structural aspects within a semantic wiki to accomodate attached documents ] you mean standoff markup, i.e. pointers from the wiki into the docs?

JohnMcClure: Christoph, yes standoff markup

JohnMcClure: I would like to see wikis used for medical records mngmnet, and it would need to have standoff to be effective... thanks

Chris Mitchell: This solution seems quite like the solution XWiki users are using... they can use the new Office Importer (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise18M1) to help facilitate population of the wiki and there is the ability to produce semantic functionality in the manner most recently described - I hope to research this further (example: linuxpedia.org)

YaronKoren: What's standoff?

ChristophLange: annotation that is not embedded right into the document to be marked up

ChristophLange: but that points there from outside

ChristophLange: i.e. stands off/aside the doc

JohnMcClure: basically source information for a Statement

YaronKoren: Ah, okay - I didn't know it had a name.

JohnMcClure: probably should use XPointer for xml docs

JohnMcClure: last question from me ... is there the feeling that a Statement = Wikipage ?

YaronKoren: Yeah, but I would think XML documents aren't in need of as much annotation as free-form text or image documents.

JohnMcClure: agreed, but I am concerned that that is the wrong model... a Wikipage contains many Statements, but the problem is that a Statement then is hard to annotate itself

JohnMcClure: thanks Yaron I need to go now, and review all that I missed!

JohnMcClure: bye

ChristophLange: Peter and others: thank you too!

MikeBennett: Thanks all - interesting stuff.

GuoqianJiang: Thank you all

KeiCheung: Thanks and bye!

PeterYim: Thank you, everyone, for another wonderful session! ... bye

MikeAxelrod: Thanks all! bye

ChristophLange: bye all

PeterYim: Look out for the upcoming Ontolog session (5-Feb-2009) on Pattern-based Ontology Design. The team from Institute for Cognitive Sciences and Technology (Rome, Italy) working on that actually runs an ODP (Ontology Design Pattern) semantic wiki too!

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