ConferenceCall 2011 11 03

= Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-2 - Thu 2011_11_03 =

Topic: Ontology-Related Metadata Standards -- ISO Metadata and Metamodel Standards for Ontology Work, and Related Activities at OMG

Co-chairs: Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) & Professor JohnBateman (Bremen University)

Invited Speaker: Ms. ElisaKendall (Thematix)


 * Archives:
 * Agenda & Proceedings
 * Abstract
 * slides from ElisaKendall
 * audio recording of the session [ 1:38:04 ; mp3 ; 11.23MB ]
 * Transcript of the online chat session during the panel discussion
 * Other Resources

Abstract
Ontology-Related Metadata Standards


 * This is the 2nd session of the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series, co-championed by Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) and Professor JohnBateman (Bremen University), who among their other roles, co-chair the Standardization Coordination Committee of IAOA.


 * ISO 19763 Metamodel Framework for Interoperability (MFI) is a set of standards being developed under ISO/IEC JTC1/SC32 (Standards for Data Management and Interchange) as one of the WG2 (Metadata Standards) projects.


 * Ms. Kendall's presentation will include background on what the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC32/WG2 working group does, the set of standards they have been responsible for and who and how these standards are being used. She will provide an overview of the parts in the ISO 19763 standard that are of particular interest to this audience.


 * The ISO/JTC1/SC32 working groups have just met this last week (October, 24  28, 2011) in Crete, Greece. Elisa will also ping folks who attended to get some latest updates, especially those involving the metadata standards in general. In addition, she will present current work at the Object Management Group (OMG) motivating the need for such standards, as well as provide an update on what's happening in ontology at OMG more generally.

Agenda & Proceedings
Session Topic: Ontology-Related Metadata Standards -- ISO Metadata and Metamodel Standards for Ontology Work, and Related Activities at OMG


 * Session Format & Agenda: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
 * 1. Opening Remarks - co-chairs
 * 2. Briefing from the invited speaker - ElisaKendall ...  (slides)
 * 3. Q & A and open discussion - All (~30 min.) ... (ref. process)
 * 4. Conclusion / Follow-up / Announcement - co-chairs

Transcript of the online chat during the session:
see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

PeterYim: Welcome to the

= Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-2  Thu 2011_11_03 =

Topic: Ontology-Related Metadata Standards -- ISO Metadata and Metamodel Standards for Ontology Work, and Related Activities at OMG

Co-chairs: Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) & Professor JohnBateman (Bremen University)

Invited Speaker: Ms. ElisaKendall (Thematix)

Please refer to details on thesession page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_11_03

Mute / Un-mute: moderator will mute everyone; raise your hand (with "hand button" at lower right of chat window) "*7" to un-mute yourself; "*6" to go back into mute after you speak

if you are in the chat-room as "anonymous", please click on "setting" (button at top center) and change that to your real name in WikiWord format)

. == Proceedings ==.

anonymous morphed into ElisaKendall

anonymous morphed into ClarenceDillon

anonymous1 morphed into ChristopherSpottiswoode

anonymous morphed into MichelleRaymond

anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu

anonymous morphed into BartGajderowicz

anonymous morphed into MaimiNiina

anonymous morphed into MikeRiben

anonymous morphed into HaroldSolbrig

PeterYim: John Bateman ... we don't hear you on voice ... are you having trouble?

JohnBateman: yes: Skype has just updated itself and I Can't activate the keypad to give the PIN!!!

JohnBateman: OK, now I'm in...

PeterYim: @John ... great - for John & All ref. "Skype dial pad" see - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VirtualSpeakerSessionTips#nid2YQ1 ... the skype dial pad (on their latest software) is now under the drop down menu "Call | Show Dial Pad"

RexBrooks: Sorry I got here late and will have to leave early. Hectic day. I will catch up asynchronously later. ... I'll leave this page up while gone so I can catch any exchanges in the chat, and will look for the recording later. Sounds very interesting!

DeniseWarzel: My comment was that the ontologies registered by the 19763-3 Ontology registration plays important role in providing concepts to use in annotating the other 19763 models. Annotations on the classes in the other parts of 19763 are intended to come from domain specific concepts in ontologies registered by 19763-3....

DeniseWarzel: ISO 11179 Part 3 FDIS will be submitted next January, and it will be another 6 months for adoption as IS (International Standard)

ChristophLange: need to leave in a few minutes, sorry! thanks for your presentation. (@MichaelGruninger: no specific questions so far. Need to think about this, and its relation to OntoIOp.)

ToddSchneider: Elisa, thank you the information and updates. You've identified a large number of interesting research problems that have very practical consequences (and need to solved yesterday). Have to go. Cheers.

HaroldSolbrig: CTS2 has attempted to represent a reasonable subset of OMV

HaroldSolbrig: We ended up using more of an earlier version, however, that did support the notion of ontology version.

HaroldSolbrig: CTS2 will be coupled w/ BioPortal which will make it accessible to OOR as well if desired.

MichaelGruninger: @HaroldSolbrig: Can you please expand the acronym CTS2?

AliHashemi: @Michael, @Harold: CTS2 = Common Terminology Services 2 (http://hssp.wikispaces.com/cts2) ?

HaroldSolbrig: That is the intro - the current jump off point is http://informatics.mayo.edu/cts2/framework/

HaroldSolbrig: http://informatics.mayo.edu/cts2 is an anchor point as well, has the specs and the like, but we're currently in the process of updating the documentation

HaroldSolbrig: @MichaelGruninger - "Common Terminology Services 2" - The "2" is because it is a logical successor to the CTS standard, which emerged in HL7 and ISO TC215

MichaelGruninger: @HaroldSolbrig: thanks!

MichaelGruninger: @Elisa: You discussed models and modules? We all know how the term "model" is overloaded, so I could you clarify how model modularity is related to ontology modularity?

JohnBateman: Really excellent presentation! Fantastic overview of very many absolute current, critical issues of interest to many of us. Thanks for that! ... particularly concerning the current burning issues of modularity and reasoning over the specs.

FabianNeuhaus: unfortunately i have to go. Elisa, thank you for your great presentation.

PeterYim: @Elisa - great presenation! ... can you give us some pointers to the state-of-the-art in UML to OWL/CL and XML to OWL/CL translation tools?

LeoObrst: Thanks, Elisa! Good view of the landscape.

PeterYim: @Michael - [reference to the person at JPL Elisa mentioned] that would be: NicolasRouquette

AliHashemi: [link to the IKL project] - http://sourceforge.net/projects/prikl/

ChristopherSpottiswoode: Many thanks - most impressive!

PeterYim: Great session!

PeterYim: -- session ended 11:19am PDT --

-- end of chat session --


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Resources

 * ISO/IEC JTC1/SC32 Data Management and Interchange - http://www.jtc1sc32.org
 * ISO/IEC JTC1/SC32/WG2 Metadata Standards Homepage - http://metadata-standards.org/
 * ISO/IEC 19763, Information Technology - Metamodel Framework for Interoperability (MFI), homepage - http://metadata-stds.org/19763/

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Attendees

 * Attended:
 * MichaelGruninger (co-chair)
 * JohnBateman (co-chair)
 * ElisaKendall (invited speaker)
 * PeterYim
 * HasanSayani
 * MichelleRaymond
 * ElizabethFlorescu
 * ClarenceDillon
 * JimSchoening
 * SteveRay
 * BobSmith
 * ChristopherSpottiswoode
 * ChristophLange
 * DeniseWarzel
 * TerryLongstreth
 * BartGajderowicz
 * FabianNeuhaus
 * MaimiNiina
 * MarcWalker
 * MichaelRiben
 * RexBrooks
 * ToddSchneider
 * HaroldSolbrig
 * AliHashemi
 * LeoObrst
 * RaviSharma


 * Other registered participants we were expecting (who may have joined after the roll call):
 * JeffPan
 * TimBoland
 * PaulBrown
 * KenBaclawski
 * JaehyunLee
 * JackieLoop
 * MatthewWest
 * ... if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail  so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...
 * ... if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail  so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...


 * Regrets:
 * TimWilson
 * JoelBender