ConferenceCall 2005 09 01

= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-01 =

Conference Call Details

 * Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-01


 * Agenda Comments:
 * ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
 * please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
 * VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
 * view-only password: "ontolog"
 * view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
 * Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_09_01
 * Date: Thursday, Sep. 1, 2005
 * Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
 * Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
 * Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
 * Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

 * Attended:
 * BobSmith
 * DuaneNickull
 * PeterYim
 * PatCassidy
 * RexBrooks
 * KurtConrad
 * MonicaMartin
 * DavidWhitten
 * EMichaelMaximilien


 * Expecting:
 * ElisaKendall
 * ...(add your name here)...


 * Regrets:
 * MitchRinger
 * PaulKoch

Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda


 * KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes


 * PeterYim volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants


 * see above

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)


 * Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
 * member regular meeting
 * invited speaker session
 * scheduled discussion
 * project review
 * workshop / work session
 * planning


 * Scheduled Ontolog Events
 * Thu Sep. 8, 2005 - ElisaKendall - "The Model Driven Semantic Web  Emerging Technologies & Implementation Strategies" - (proposed by: BrandNiemann / PeterYim) - confirmed - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_08
 * Elisa has posted the ODM spec to the session page; solicits the community's review and comment. (also: nice to browse through that prior to the 9/8/05 session.)
 * Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - JonBosak - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 - confirmed (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull / PeterYim)
 * Ontolog members should note that this replaces our regular Thursday Sep. 22 meeting (i.e. no 9/22/05 call)
 * Thu Oct. 13 2005 - BarrySmith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed (BillMcCarthy)
 * Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: NicolasRouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_27
 * the original 10/27 date conflicts with the NCOR Inaugural Meeting, we are rescheduling this to Thu Oct. 20, 2005
 * EMichaelMaximilien will join Nicolas in organizing this event
 * Peter will ping Nicolas to let him know; we should start working on this quickly
 * Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City


 * Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
 * Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -
 * John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)
 * DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
 * NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)
 * LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
 * SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
 * JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
 * other suggestions:
 * Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
 * Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
 * Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
 * Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
 * Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time
 * Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team
 * PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness
 * To be brought up for discussion today:
 * ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen
 * BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
 * BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck
 * DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
 * DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
 * Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to
 * suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa


 * Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:
 * Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
 * NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?
 * a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
 * possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
 * Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
 * Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
 * we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
 * candidates for November, 2005
 * Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
 * Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
 * Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
 * Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
 * Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
 * PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
 * candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)
 * maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
 * DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it
 * EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.
 * Duane suggested this queue management chat tool by Doug Davis of IBM - http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog
 * Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session


 * Upcoming Events of interest
 * Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Mark & Peter will be presenting their SMI/CIM3 Public Collaborative Ontology Development Server)
 * Peter to post link to the session
 * Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)
 * Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the JonBosak joint-program with Ontolog; RexBrook et al. also presenting.
 * OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. 15, 2005 - see: http://www.oasis-open.org/events/webinars/webinars.php
 * National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html
 * wants to know if call-in is supported

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues


 * The SIGMA Knowledge Engineering Environment (AdamPease's SUMO) server has been upgraded since last month. The link is now http://sigma3.cim3.net:4010/sigma/login.html (the previous http://sigma2.cim3.net:8080/sigma/login.html no longer works, please note.) - attn: all
 * The Ontolog response to UC/CEFACT on CCTS v2.01 report should be corresponding updated (with the above link) and resubmitted. (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid24) - attn: KurtConrad, DuaneNickull et al.
 * also, the CCT to SUMO-MILO-QOS-CCTONT mapping should also be updated from v0.4.1 to v0.6.1 - attn: AdamPease, PeterYim, KurtConrad et al.
 * also need to update the CctRepresentation page with the v0.6.1 spreadsheet

6) Follow-ups from previous calls


 * post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_08_25 Healthcare Informatics Landscape discussion session
 * what worked well
 * divergence (good spectrum of representation) of the panel
 * great resource collected
 * good follow-up responses and postings
 * what could be improved
 * ideas for the future
 * Rex: don't mind doing a follow-up session, with the same people, but no presentations, so that we can devote the full time to discussion
 * Kurt: we should do this sooner or later
 * other remarks
 * Rex: let's shoot for Thu Nov. 3, 2005 - Rex will post to the forum and seek people's availability


 * possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]
 * Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition
 * Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned
 * Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group
 * Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to PatCassidy or anyone else who would be interested


 * Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling

7) Current Project Status Report


 * Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
 * Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
 * Formalization issues
 * UBL Liaison update
 * [CCT-Rep] status report


 * Status of Protege-KIF project work


 * status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
 * representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.


 * UBL liaison report


 * SICoP liaison report


 * Planning team - discussion report
 * ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_18#nidF6S
 * and: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_18#nidF6V

8) project work session / discussion

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

11) Other business


 * EdDodds / BobSmith: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006
 * PeterYim: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity".


 * Duane: call for paper - http://www.ift.ulaval.ca/%7Ekone/SWIG06/CSWWS2006-blog.htm
 * Canadian Semantic Web Working Symposium - Jun. 6 2006 - Quebec City, Canada
 * submission due Jan. 1, 2006

12) Next meeting date and adjourn


 * regular call adjourned 11:41 am PDT
 * next call will be on Thu 2005-09-08 starting at 10:30 am PDT
 * that will be the Ontolog Invited Speaker session featuring ElisaKendall on: "The Model Driven Semantic Web  Emerging Technologies & Implementation Strategies."
 * See: ConferenceCall_2005_09_08

-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2005.09.01-11:43am PDT