ConferenceCall 2005 08 18

= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-08-18 =

Conference Call Details

 * Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-08-18


 * Agenda Comments:
 * ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
 * please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
 * VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
 * view-only password: "ontolog"
 * view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
 * Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_18
 * Date: Thursday, Aug. 18, 2005
 * Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
 * Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
 * Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
 * Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

 * Attended:
 * DuaneNickull
 * PeterYim
 * BobSmith
 * KurtConrad
 * MonicaMartin


 * Expecting:
 * RexBrooks (will attend if I can)
 * MarcWine
 * ...(add your name here)...


 * Regrets:
 * BrandNiemann (meeting conflict)
 * SusanTurnbull (meeting conflict)
 * NicolasRouquette (schedule conflict)
 * EMichaelMaximilien
 * PeterBrown (on leave)
 * BillAndersen (on the road)

Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda


 * KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes


 * PeterYim volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants


 * see above

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)


 * Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
 * member regular meeting
 * invited speaker session
 * scheduled discussion
 * project review
 * workshop / work session
 * planning


 * Scheduled Ontolog Events
 * start with this section first - Kurt: easier for the flow of the agenda


 * Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
 * Sep. 8, 2005 - ElisaKendall - "The Model Driven Semantic Web  Emerging Technologies & Implementation Strategies" - (proposed by: BrandNiemann / PeterYim) - confirmed - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_08
 * Elisa has posted the ODM spec to the session page; solicits the community's review and comment. (also: nice to browse through that prior to the 9/8/05 session.)
 * Sep. 23, 2005 - JonBosak - on a topic related to Community Governance and the OASIS Process (proposed by: KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - confirmed
 * Oct. 13 2005 - Barry Smith - confirmed (BillMcCarthy)
 * Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -
 * John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)
 * DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
 * NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)
 * LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
 * SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
 * JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
 * other suggestions:
 * Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
 * Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
 * Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
 * Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
 * Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time
 * Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team
 * PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness
 * To be brought up for discussion today:
 * ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen
 * BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
 * BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck
 * DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
 * DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
 * Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to
 * suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa


 * Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months (DavidWhitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.)
 * August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: RexBrooks - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_25
 * Subject: "Healthcare Informatics Landscapes, Roadmaps, and Blueprints: Towards a Business Case Strategy for Large Scale Ontology Projects"
 * Panelists: BobSmith, BrandNiemann, DavidWhitten, MarcWine, MarkMusen + invited: BrettTrusko, Roy Morgan, Ram Sriram
 * Oct. 27 2005 discussion - Moderator: NicolasRouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_27/Prep
 * Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
 * NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?
 * a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
 * possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
 * Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
 * Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
 * we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
 * candidates for November, 2005
 * Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
 * Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
 * Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
 * Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
 * Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
 * PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
 * candidate panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)
 * maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
 * DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it


 * we had a discussion on when we should engage non-open/commercial work
 * we should keep the community aware of the bleeding edge of the space - open or not
 * "unsolicited" presentations of commercial technologies and products would be a no no; have to be under "invitation"
 * need careful review and oversight; avoid conflict of interest
 * we have to make sure we don't invite / become a free advertising space
 * stay on research and the pre-competitive stage of the technoology, if we can
 * for example - Adobe XMP or some of their semantic web related work would be of interest; or the big SERACH vendors
 * for example - Adobe XMP or some of their semantic web related work would be of interest; or the big SERACH vendors


 * Upcoming Events of interest
 * Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Susan, Brand & MikeDaconta among the organizers; Mark & Peter among presenter)
 * Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)
 * Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the JonBosak joint-program with Ontolog
 * OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. or Oct. (Monica, Joe)
 * National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues


 * SessionArchivesOnCD
 * not enough demand to make the dvelopment and production of this CD or DVD worth the while (at least on the current exercise.)
 * however, consider other possibilities:
 * capturing a snapshot of this body of knowledge (for backup purposes; as an insurance to our sustainability concerns.)
 * distribution through other channels (IEEE, ACM, ...) that helps us promote our cause
 * as a media where, say, our "Journal" is delivered on (see more discussion below


 * Transscript to discussion session
 * any volunteer (member? your students?)
 * any sponsor?
 * let defer this to a planning team discussion


 * Any idea abou the e-mail addresses for the following people
 * RobertGarigue (Bob), JayneDutra (Nicolas)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls


 * post-mortem on the 2005.08.11 JimHendler: Semantic Q&A session
 * what worked well
 * best attended so far
 * extended invitation list now
 * what could be improved
 * background noise - Kurt: we can mute everyone ... what it takes is for the speaker to come in with the organizer code - great!
 * ideas for the future
 * other remarks


 * call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: DuaneNickull - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]
 * Duane: let's put this on the back burner, and hold off until they approach us again


 * possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]


 * Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling

7) Current Project Status Report


 * Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
 * Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
 * Formalization issues
 * UBL Liaison update
 * [CCT-Rep] status report


 * Status of Protege-KIF project work


 * status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
 * representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.
 * see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/health-ont/2005-07/msg00001.html
 * deadline for abstract submission is Mon 2005.08.08
 * possibility of writing up the 8/25 panel discussion and make that a community submission
 * participation in OMG/HL7 workshop 25~27 Oct. 2005 (washington DC) - abstract deadline 2005.08.12 - see: http://www.omg.org/news/meetings/HC2005/index.htm


 * UBL liaison report


 * SICoP liaison report


 * Planning team - discussion
 * Kurt: maybe it is time for a "call for papers" - as another means to engage the community
 * let's publish a periodic journal
 * the idea is: let's get people to write stuff
 * a first "annual call for papers"? A review panel?
 * Peter: idea - get a sponsor to donate some money, and award a prize for the best paper(s)
 * Bob - Strategic alliance
 * with NCOR
 * Synergies with other related communities - try the SEARCH at http://ontolog.cim3.net
 * our wiki supports "transclusion" too - see:
 * http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SandBox#nid8A or
 * http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_27/Prep#nidEZR

8) project work session / discussion

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding


 * possibility of "packaging" our events for sponsorship
 * we can package up (a) the monthly speakers and (b) the discussion sessions


 * Bob: think of going for European or other International sponsors

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn


 * regular call adjourned 11:20 am PDT; the planning team (Kurt, Bob and Peter) continued until 12:23pm
 * next call will be on Thu 2005.08.25 starting at 10:30 am PDT
 * that will be the Ontolog Scheduled Discussion session on: "Healthcare Informatics Landscapes, Roadmaps, and Blueprints: Towards a Business Case Strategy for Large Scale Ontology Projects"
 * Moderator: RexBrook
 * Panelists: BobSmith, BrandNiemann, DavidWhitten, MarcWine, MarkMusen & pending - BrettTrusko, RoyMorgan, RamSriram.
 * See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_25

-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim ppy / 2005.08.18-12:25 pm PDT